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ELDs, Hours of Service, Detention – And Data

Blog commentary by Deborah Lockridge, Editor in Chief

November 14, 2017

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A common complaint about mandatory electronic logging devices is that they will no longer allow drivers to (illegally) “fudge” their logs to compensate for overly long detention times at shippers and receivers. Yet the data that ELDs can provide could help carriers and the industry at large address the detention issue, both on a shipper-specific basis and on a regulatory level.

As I pointed out in an HDT editorial earlier this year, the underlying reason many drivers and fleets don’t want ELDs really wasn’t so much the notion of using an electronic device to track driver hours — it was the hours of service regulations themselves.

But by digging in their heels and resisting the ELD mandate, driver and fleets are only hurting their cause for revising the HOS regs to something that better reflects the day-to-day realities of trucking.

“Nobody can advocate for a change in the rules by saying we’re not going to follow the rules. The best way is to embrace the benefits of the technology and argue the [HOS] changes at a later time. We can emphasize problems with truck parking, with detention time, and ELDs will go a long way toward doing that, because we will have sound data and sound science behind us.”

ELD provider KeepTruckin has been doing just that, using the data it has gathered to create a petition to the FMCSA to allow drivers to extend their 14 hours to 16 hours when they are detained for extended periods of time.

Some of the findings in the data:

  • 75% of drivers are detained at a pickup or drop off location for 2+ hours every week.
  • 35% of drivers are detained at a pickup or drop off location for more than 6 hours every week.
  • On average, a driver faces seven Extended Detention Events every month.
  • Drivers drive 3.5 mph faster after an Extended Detention Event.
  • 81% of drivers said they feel pressured to make it to their next stop in time.
  • 32% said they drove faster after being detained at a stop.

While the intent of the 14-hour limit is to reduce fatigue related accidents, if it causes drivers to go faster to make up for lost time, does that result in driving that is less safe?

I don't think we have enough data yet to know for sure, but it's certainly food for thought. And as more and more telematics data is becoming available (see our December issue for more on data analytics), we'll be able to get more of that data.

“Our ultimate goal is to help drivers and carriers get paid for detention time,” explained founder and CEO Shoaib Makani. “With 200,000 drivers using the KeepTruckin ELD, we know exactly which shippers and receivers are detaining drivers for excessive periods of time. We are going to publish that data so that carriers knows who the worst offenders are and can demand payment for detention time.”


  1. 1. Delmer Polak [ November 15, 2017 @ 05:59AM ]

    I've shared that same thought for years; it's not using the ELD that's a problem, it's the detention. Even the HOS rules are fine, but drivers cannot spend 5-10-15 hours per week on dwell time.

    If the KeepTruckin CEO really wants to develop that concept of identifying locations that detain drivers, simply compile that information based on GPS location. Not naming names prevents KT from getting sued, but the industry would quickly identify which locations to avoid, or to bid higher rates on.

    More data will fix this problem eventually.

  2. 2. Larry roberson [ November 15, 2017 @ 06:29AM ]

    parking,parking, parking, parking, parking, parking DO YOU ALL .YOU ALL THINK LET'S SAY you got a 100 truck pick up in houston tx all a round THE TOWN all get loaded abouth 3:30pm all of them is single driver .ALL on there way to Miami fl they all HAVE the same route i10 that mean some where around Live Oak fl all these trucker have to stop in the same area on top of the other trucker that all ready there somebody help me with this one before you can drive a truck you have to have a truck to drive so with that said before you can make a rule in to law I would THINK YOU WOULD PUT MORE GOV.PARKING IN PLACE FOR THE TRUCKING INC you know WE ARE THE BACKBONE OF THE UNITED STATES OF AMERICA AND we do hold a federal license call a CDL THAT IS GOOD IN ALL STATES. SO I THINK THE GOVERNMENT SHOULD MAKE SURE THAT WE GOT SAFE AND ADEQUATE PARKING THE GOVERNMENT HAVE MORE THAT ENOUGH LAND ALONE OUR HIGHWAY. AND IF NOT JUST ENFORCE INTIMATE DOMAIN RULE.WE AS A PEOPLE HAVE TO STOP FIXING PROBLEM IN HALVES WE HAVE TO FIX THEM IN WHOLES .PS I AM JUST A DUMD OLD TRUCKER THAT LOVE THE USA

  3. 3. Brian [ November 15, 2017 @ 07:38AM ]

    Sorry Ms Lockridge, although you thought pattern on this has merit, there are quite a few flaws in it. First off, this is a government mandate. Which means the wheels turn slowly, VERY SLOWLY. So fixing the HOS on the back side, or reverse engineering the problem, only makes it worse. Next, these same shippers and receivers that are causing all this detention time, and causing drivers to run out of hours at the docks, are now calling the police, and tow company's when the driver cant LEGALLY move the rig, and since they are forcing them to move the rigs off property, it makes it even more frustrating for the driver that is willing to move his rig, because now he is moving his rig to a likely "no parking" zone, and faces tickets, and possibly towing again. This is no joke, I watched a driver get arrested and have his rig towed at a grocery warehouse because the receiver took 6 hours to unload him, so he was out of hours, and not able to move his truck. Police were called, and he was arrested for trespassing, and his rig towed.

    Ms Lockridge, you sound like Nancy Pelosi. We must pass the bill to see what shakes out, and boy did we all get screwed with that one (Obamacare). Prove something works, and has merit, before forcing it on the masses. It didnt work for Obamacare, and it wont work for the ELD mandate.

    All these company's know who the violators and the worse for holding drivers in detention are. And these company's should be publicized, so we all know to stay away from them. Wal-Mart is horrible, but at least they have driver parking. Kroger/King Soopers is also bad, but again they offer limited driver parking. CoreMark is also horrible, and DO NOT offer parking.

    Pretty much the rule of thumb is that if you think you are going to need a lumper, you know that the wait is going to be horrible.

    And for parking, the easiest solution is for more drivers to be Lunar powered. Less traffic, easier to get thru the big cities.

  4. 4. Wayne Nunez [ November 16, 2017 @ 06:44AM ]

    Thank you, I have been screaming this from the rooftop since the introduction of ELD's. At first companies rejected the ELD's due to the restrictions it placed on delivery and pick up times. They implanted a dislike for them in their drivers minds, before understanding the whole benefit of them. Now companies are trying to play catch up with trying to prove the benefits with a looming mandate on them. Having been a driver/owner operator, the last thing I wanted was a dispatcher monitoring my every move. Being a consultant maintaining and monitoring driver logs are the most time consuming task there is. Since the introduction of the ELD, I now have more time to work on other projects that benefit both the client and the driver. Companies that are embracing the ELD's and educating their drivers on the benefits of them will ultimately win in the long run.

  5. 5. Peter McManus [ November 16, 2017 @ 12:01PM ]

    I am a fan of yours, Deborah, but I have to say I agree with Brian, but for a different reason. I was hopeful the ELD mandate (I fall in the "HOS rules need changing, ELD's are valuable, but I don't like the government telling me what to do" camp) would make docks accountable to making sure HOS regulations are followed, but, although there is mention to keeping them accountable, I do not see anything in the mandate that will motivate them to make their operations more efficient and/or provide holding/parking areas for drivers who are out of hours. Extending the 14 hour window or making other changes to HOS is not addressing the problem that nobody benefits from...excessive time at docks, especially when drivers are not adequately compensated for those hours.


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