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FMCSA Proposes Electronic Logbook Regulations

March 13, 2014

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Electronic logs are currently optional but have been adopted by many fleets.
Electronic logs are currently optional but have been adopted by many fleets.

The Federal Motor Carrier Safety Administration on Thursday unveiled its proposal to require interstate commercial truck and bus companies to use Electronic Logging Devices in their vehicles to improve compliance with the safety rules that govern the number of hours a driver can work.

FMCSA contends the proposal would significantly reduce the paperwork burden associated with hours-of-service recordkeeping -- the largest in the federal government following tax-related filings -- and improve the quality of logbook data.

The agency claims the proposed rule will reduce hours-of-service violations by making it harder for drivers to misrepresent their time on logbooks and avoid detection by the agency and law enforcement personnel. FMCSA says analysis shows the proposed regulation would help reduce crashes by fatigued drivers and prevent approximately 20 fatalities and 434 injuries each year for an annual safety benefit of $394.8 million.

The proposed rule also includes provisions to:

  • Respect driver privacy by ensuring that ELD records continue to reside with the motor carriers and drivers. Electronic logs will continue to only be made available to FMCSA personnel or law enforcement during roadside inspections, compliance reviews and post-crash investigations.
  • Protect drivers from harassment through an explicit prohibition on harassment by a motor carrier owner towards a driver using information from an ELD.  It will also establish a procedure for filing a harassment complaint and creates a maximum civil penalty of up to $11,000 for a motor carrier that engages in harassment of a driver that leads to an hours-of-service violation or the driver operating a vehicle when they are so fatigued or ill it compromises safety. The proposal will also ensure that drivers continue to have access to their own records and require ELDs to include a mute function to protect against disruptions during sleeper berth periods.
  • Increase efficiency for law enforcement personnel and inspectors who review driver logbooks by making it more difficult for a driver to cheat when submitting their records of duty status and ensuring the electronic logs can be displayed and reviewed electronically, or printed, with potential violations flagged. 

In developing the updated proposal, FMCSA relied on input from its Motor Carrier Safety Advisory Committee, feedback from two public listening sessions and comments filed during an extended period following the 2011 proposed rule. The proposal also incorporates the mandates included in the most recent transportation bill, the Moving Ahead for Progress in the 21st Century Act, and other statutes.

Read more in-depth coverage from Washington Editor Oliver Patton in this updated story.

Comments

  1. 1. Dave [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:30AM ]

    Who is going to pay for them and where is all the data going to be stored

  2. 2. Jim B, Lane [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:36AM ]

    I am not a robot that can b told when I will sleep and when I will be driving it's all a bunch of bullshit by people who don't have a clue about trucking industry . I'm done when the day it becomes mandatory plus they're not telling u about all of the expenses that go with them . I'll will go broke using electric logs

  3. 3. Sergio [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:41AM ]

    I'm going to spend my rest of my life in jail cause I can't afford the cost to put electronic logs in my truck and I will not pay the fines for not haven the logs so if will pay with jail time the government can give me food in jail.

  4. 4. gale younger [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:45AM ]

    We file taxes which sometimes get audited. How do we retrieve our logs to prove our travel data if nobody stores this info. If we change companies they delete us from their files soon after. We cannot print electronic logs.

  5. 5. Dana hogan [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:48AM ]

    Who is going to explain to the people when movers are loading or unloading out of resident and the driver run out of hours and we have to stay in front of there residents because some bureaucrat want to change the rules

  6. 6. Kevin [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:50AM ]

    I would like to know who is going to pay to put these in your trucks they cost a lot of money it's a sad day when They tell you when you can go to work when you have to go to bed what about the cops who work double shifts they don't take 10 hour breaks

  7. 7. Joy [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:51AM ]

    As a small carrier that has been using e-logs for over 2 years I can say that they are wonderful. We have seen an increase in productivity. Drivers now maximize thier hours during the day and rest at night. Yes, we have lost out on loads that needed to deliver out of our avaialble hours but the added benefit of a clean CSA score also alows us to command a premium rate. The hard cost of this technology is very small after the initial purchase. After 30 years in the industry this was a big change for us but one that has made life easier for the driver and the office staff.

  8. 8. Michael Dailey [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:53AM ]

    EOBR reduces/eliminates log falsification it does not eliminate log violations. Example, if you drive 11 hours and 1 minute the computer recognizes a violation, that violation will never appear on a paper log. if you come off your 10 hour break, 30 seconds early the computer will not recognize that you even took a 10 hour break and will go back in time and show multiple violations and that does not happen with a paper log. My drivers run EOBRs and I prefer them to paper logs. As with any new tool it takes time to learn how to use them and adjust. My drivers can run more miles with the EOBR and they are not questioned about the validity of their log. When most DOT inspectors see the system my drivers hear "have nice day driver." If we could just do something with the 168 hour rule.

  9. 9. Dave [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:55AM ]

    Time to strike!!!!!

  10. 10. L.G. [ March 13, 2014 @ 10:55AM ]

    All of this in the name of safety, they don't have a clue about safety. Try getting to root of the problem and ask someone who knows and that is the drivers themselves! Part of the problem is in the training some of these knuckleheads receive, two weeks and you get put on the road in
    your on truck, and trained by another goofball that knows nothing themselves. You cannot pass knowledge to anyone if you yourself know nothing!

  11. 11. Jerry.B [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:03AM ]

    Can we please put a device in cars,vans and others that will stop the cars when they have been driven 5 hours (since they are not professional drivers) so we the professional drivers won't get run into because they have worked too much and are driving too much too. That would be a safer way to reduce accidents. Drivers...join Truckers against tired mons. TATM today!

  12. 12. Tyler Rosenkrans [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:29AM ]

    This is a crock of garbage. This will not solve fatigued driving nor reduce it. A lot of companies make you take a ten hr break, drive a hour. Take another 10, then drive again. I don't know anyone who can sleep 19 hours a day wake up and feel refreshed. I'll go flip burgers before elog is in my ride. It's sad, but true. The government is single handedly dismantling the little guy. And it's sad to see, or be a part of. Maybe they should look at the cars and drivers of cars that run from here to Cali on vacation. And drive straight through. Crack down on them for a headlight out. Or oil leaks and driver fatigue. I've seen more ignorant four wheelers than trucks out on the road. But they run into us and were the bad guys. It's bogus. Just like the government. Wanna fix big truck crashes?! Look at the big company's who take someone who's never backed up a lawn mower with a 4 foot wagon. Let alone a 240wb "little truck" with a 53' trailer. Send them out with a 2 year "professional driver" and two weeks later they're offering you 50$ to back they're truck in at a dock or parking spot. That's the issue that should be addressed.

  13. 13. Neil T. [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:32AM ]

    I agree with LG the amount if

  14. 14. Tyler Rosenkrans [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:33AM ]

    Guess I shoulda read through all the comments before I went on my rant haha. Pretty much said what everyone else has. But I feel better haha.

  15. 15. Neil T. [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:34AM ]

    I agree with LG these people are not trained properly in any aspect. They need to start having people trained people that have been on the road and know the ins and outs and what is safe and what is not safe to do on a daily basis people do not do pre- trips they do not do post trips it's ludicrous out here right now

  16. 16. Kenny H [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:46AM ]

    This isn't going to stop, until we all grow a real set of balls and unite and shut this country down. They will keep taking more and more till we are all out of business and the military will be moving the frieght in this land.

  17. 17. Jaycleck [ March 13, 2014 @ 11:57AM ]

    This is a move is payed for by big companies to get rid of the little man!!
    Remember when they changed over to the CDL, it was supposed to get the bad drivers off the road. instead they went up on each endorsement They are going to run us out!!!

  18. 18. Company truck [ March 13, 2014 @ 12:45PM ]

    Those savings are bullcrap... There will still be accidents and just like most truck related crashes it's the unprofessional drivers (4 wheelers) on the road who cause the majority of problems. The government needs to back off the trucking industry and give us a break. This may be the wishes and wants of the large trucking companies but they can't do all the work in America no matter how big they get. It still takes the little man to make this industry work. There was absolutely no reason for messing with the 34 hour restart but some paper pusher in Washington thinks by only allowing 1 restart per week will reduce crashes in realty it makes the company tell the driver your time is up hit the road even when the driver may still be tired. In fact I have personally witness washingtons grib on the trucking industry run truck drivers out of the profession. They will continue to mess with truckers until we band together and shut down the commerce or the people of America get tired of their goods costing more and more each year. The cost of these rules are passed along to you the consumer. Tell Washington to give us a break.

  19. 19. Gary [ March 13, 2014 @ 12:46PM ]

    Big Companies say EOBR devices are good. LOL, Right! Ask their Drivers how they feel about barely bringing home $1,200 a month because of them.

  20. 20. Mr. Truck [ March 13, 2014 @ 01:14PM ]

    Didn't go far enough in my opinion. They need a mandatory blood pressure cuff and rectal thermometer hooked up to these devices. No driver should be on the road with high BP or a fever. All roadside inspectors should have to check for accurate placement of the cuff and thermometer to insure they are working properly. Safety first.

  21. 21. John Mullen [ March 13, 2014 @ 01:28PM ]

    Another costly , unnecessary burden of regulation which contributes to an enlarged ineffective agency , driver turnover and shortage. As long as the industry continues to pay on a mileage formula, unpaid delay time and support the exemption to the National Labor Laws - hunker down boys and expect more of the same.

  22. 22. haller [ March 13, 2014 @ 02:07PM ]

    If this is Breaking News why isn't on the News, CBS, NBC, etc.. Lets inform the United States of America what these clowns are doing.. The next thing the ruling class will propose and implement is NOT teaching writing in schools, so the next generation will not know how to sign their names....

  23. 23. JL [ March 13, 2014 @ 02:23PM ]

    Getting so that the owner operators can't afford to stay on business...and they are usually the quality drivers the industry and government should want to keep. Owners need their equipment to last and safety violations mean an end to their entire business, so they have more at stake. Govt is making it difficult on the very people they actually want on the roads. Very discouraging for small business.

  24. 24. Vickie [ March 13, 2014 @ 02:41PM ]

    As a dispatcher for a medium size trucking company I will say that eLogs have made things much easier for both our drivers and our office personnel. The logs are stored for 6 months, as that Is all that is required, and you are actually able to retrieve the data and print them when needed. We have also found that once the drivers get accustomed to the eLogs, they end up liking them, as it makes their lives easier and basically wipes the form and manner violations off the table. A lot of the drivers like the in-cab navigation portion of the system as well. They are all truck based routes for the drivers. Also, if the drivers properly manage their days, they can actually improve efficiency as well. In terms of detention times, many of the onboard systems can monitor these times for the drivers as well, so they have proof to take back to the customers to try to obtain compensation. It has been working for us, and not all of these devices are all that expensive in the grand scheme of things. After the initial hardware cost, it is similar to the cost of a cheap cell phone bill. The good vendors also have a warranty that comes with the services in the event you have some hardware failure. Also, if a company has a dispatch software that can integrate to the device in the cab, it reduces the need for dispatchers to have to do check calls, as the GPS information from the device can give them status updates!

  25. 25. Dave [ March 13, 2014 @ 03:56PM ]

    Come on folks. The only thing this changes is paper to electronic. The 34-hour reset, 14-hr rule...these are already in place. Most all of us are using smart phones, iPads, laptops... We are simply moving into the modern age. E-logs make life so much easier, it does most of the work for you. It automatically records your name, truck & trailer number, date & time, location. It is connected to the ECM so it can automacially move to the drive line when moving and on-duty when stopped. There isn't much left to do. I can't imagine seeing lights behind me when my paper is not up-to-date because I was in a hurry - or worse.

    If you want to complain about the reset, daily limits or something else go ahead. But don't mix it up with e-logs. Those rules have been around, for the most part, a long time. This does not change that at all. It simply makes us honest. It is too bad that there is dishonesty among us that has prompted the govenment to do this.

    As someone mentioned earlier, the price is not what you might think. About the price of a tank of gas for the hardware and a cheap cell phone bill for the monthly service.

    Try it out, you just might like it - I do - and there are a lot of other perks that come along with it.

  26. 26. Richard [ March 13, 2014 @ 05:36PM ]

    My best guess is probably a 30-40% reduction in productivity, so with that said NO STRIKES-NO SHUTTING DOWN WASHINGTON.... Let us instead play like BIG OIL. How about we start April 1st with a 10% increase in your hauling rate above the current rate. May 1st we RAISE that rate 5%. June first we raise another 5%. So on and so forth every month until the FEDS get the realization that the TRUCKING INDUSTRY can work together. I'm sure about November or December when the Trucking rate is nearly 40% higher and the WALMARTs GMs IBMs of the country can no longer withstand the trucking because the consumers are tired of those rates getting passed on and refuse to buy only the absolute necessities. Those companies will then go to the FEDS and say HELP US WE CANT SURVIVE . I use Nov. to Dec. time frame as that is when it will finally really hit the pocketbooks for Christmas. Yes if your a company driver this applies to you as well.... require your carrier to pay you more as well, because your productivity will be affected also. No I don't enjoy bending the rules, however how do you combat a 6 hour wait at a receiver or shipper? FUDGE OR CHARGE THE HELL OUT OF THEM! If they wont pay for the wait then they will pay for the freight to be hauled at a higher rate. YES that means we have to work TOGETHER , impossible I know but hey I'm all for being legal as long as I can keep food on the table.

  27. 27. David [ March 13, 2014 @ 05:50PM ]

    I have yet to see a logbook hold a wheel or push a pedal or tell me I'm tired. It will not prevent any accidents by having electronic logs. I've had both and certainly see no advantage. If these companies say it makes drivers be more efficient then they probably need new drivers anyway. The ATA is naturally all for it. Basically they represent the union companies that don't like to associate with the general trucking population anyway. Knowing that many O/O's and companies that don't use EOB's or ELB's won't pay to install them and will quit, it will only boost their business. Maybe then they can build enough terminals where their drivers don't have to block every gas station and store parking lot or the best truckstop parkings places to drop and hook. Doesn't seem like a level playing field when factory workers can work double shifts go home hook up the rv and head across country with no rest, or doctors and nurses can work 2-3 straight shifts then hit the road on vacation in a big motor home or John Q Public can work a double shift and go rent a 35' uhaul and move momma to Florida. They can call it in the name of safety all they want, or now the so called cut back on the paper backup, but last time I looked we can all be safer by just taking an extra minute or two to pay more attention to detail, and that doesn't cost anyone a dime. I'm all for safety, and am happy for those that like using them, but forcing everybody to use them will never solve the problem. Its time for common sense to override bureaucracy. And thanks OOIDA for the cautious stance you're taking after all the years of opposition. Your booth in Louisville will probably have a lot of questions to answer.

  28. 28. adolfo quiros [ March 14, 2014 @ 06:24AM ]

    Comunnism; cash; control.

  29. 29. adolfo quiros [ March 14, 2014 @ 06:25AM ]

    Comunist; cash; control.

  30. 30. Teri Hittman [ March 14, 2014 @ 07:12AM ]

    The former Trial Attorneys of America have renamed themselves something with Citizen Safety (Iforget the name right now). Their heavy lobbying and money sit in control of producing these regs that have NOTHING to do with safety. I will gladly join any group that is pushing back on this garbage. We have only a few trucks. Two violations last year - one for fogetting the new 30 min break and the next was a 1/2 hour error when crossing time zones on the calculation of drivers allowable day. So minor yet weighted so heavy against us in Basic scores. Ran into IL state trooper I believe responded to criticism of Illinois IDOT wrote and published to governments and newspapers. He never looked at log book and wrote us up sky high with warning we can not challenge. We are now in danger of FMCSA without any recourse and no defense. Never a crash. Never a single moving violation until this single cop. This type of monitoring is simply entrapment and nothing about it is about safety. No human being is perfect. The constant monitoring of actions of anybody is simply waiting for them to stumble, which will happen. Then they can remove the small carrier from the scene. This will also entrap drivers to only be able to work for the big companies that will now be able to do to them whatever they want for there will be no recourse for a driver to drive elsewhere. They already own the ATA and the government officials they fund. If we do not band together, we will all "die" and freedom and choice will die with it.

  31. 31. jon gleaton [ March 14, 2014 @ 11:38AM ]

    E-logs will jus put more trucks on the road...that is not safe....id like to know how they come up with these safety statistics....look likes Qualcomm is gonna be making truck loads of money and not the driver for sure....

  32. 32. Thomas Duncan [ March 15, 2014 @ 03:54AM ]

    The only"Harassment" here is the Govt. running our business!What a crok of crap!I am so pissed that working men will accept this.This is not about safety.You can not restrict a mans window of working time like this safely!These restrictions have already turned once a proud mans way to make a living into basically the Employed Homeless.

  33. 33. TJP [ March 15, 2014 @ 07:52AM ]

    I WOULD LIKE TO KNOW HOW MUCH QUALCOMM SPENT ON LOBBYISTS TO PUSH THIS THROUGH. JUST WHAT WE NEED ..MORE GOVERNMENT

  34. 34. Mark [ March 15, 2014 @ 08:06AM ]

    We are a small, 25truck fleet. Been in business for 20 years. We switched to EOBR's about a year ago. The cost was $800.00 per unit for the hardware. The service is $40.00 per month, per unit. We had gotten in trouble for logs while running paper. Our safety rating went to Conditional. After switching, our log violations practically ceased. We were able to get our safety rating changed back to Satisfactory. Our drivers miles have stayed consistent and our O/O's revenue has actually ticked up. It took some getting used to, and our customers had to realize that they couldn't hold our drivers at the docks, but it has been a very positive experience. Actually, looking back, we feel we should have done it years ago. Our drivers logs are rarely checked at roadside. Our random inspection rate has dropped and the drivers are happy that they don't have to worry about the paper log book anymore. The industry is changing just like everything else in the world. We all eventually adapted to and embraced cellphones.... It's not about safety and it sucks that we are forced to do it, but the reality is that if you want to continue in the business, this is something that you will have to get used to. Honestly, after using EOBR's myslef now, I wouldn't think of going back to paper.

  35. 35. scott coyner [ March 15, 2014 @ 09:09AM ]

    Time to park all trucks until govt gets off our backs. I Going to take some drastic action to have the govt. Back Off.

  36. 36. scott coyner [ March 15, 2014 @ 09:10AM ]

    Time to park all trucks until govt gets off our back.

  37. 37. Don [ March 15, 2014 @ 09:12AM ]

    We have been running E-Logs for three years. I would say that the drivers have adjusted pretty well to it. My biggest concern as an owner of trucking company is weather or not we, our drivers and independents could make money with this technology. I know it's challenging all away around and the cost of the equipment, insurance, fuel and tolls hasn't helped anyone in this industry. We lost a lot of trucking companies between 2007-2010 and we have been pretty stagnant in replacing this loss. Our driver shortage is getting larger. Our average drive age is getting higher and the new generation doesn't want to get into the craft. I also don't see the work ethic like I do from our veteran drivers. If you want to mandate E-Logs, you better level the playing field and allow trucking companies to make a profit without shippers and brokers lowballing the rates. We need to reward our drivers and under the current rate structure it is extremely hard to compensate them reasonably and cover the other operating costs. Mandatory fuel surcharge programs would go a long way to help sustain many of our independents. With the E-logs, we need to make sure that the Shippers & Receivers understand that they can't tie up trucks at their docks. Trucking companies usually do not make money in detention and in many places you have to give up 2 hours before you can bill for it. As a country, we must understand that without truck drivers, which are the backbone of this industry and have plenty of financial responsibility themselves, the E-Log mandate will be worthless if drivers are either out of business or looking to go into a different profession. Good luck with getting your groceries in the morning. The shelves will be empty.

  38. 38. Sasha [ March 15, 2014 @ 09:33AM ]

    It's time the American Trucker show all the fat cats sleeping in their beds at night, enjoying lunch without rush while the trucker bust his butt and missing time with his family! I hope you guys strike this time by staying home enjoying your family. You can prove your worth! Just STRIKE!! The American trucker deserves respect and its time to take it!

  39. 39. Sasha [ March 15, 2014 @ 09:45AM ]

    This comment is directed to the dispatcher with her opinion get yourself in a truck and do a trip and leave your opinion about how great the elogs are to yourself cause I bet you never took a truck stop shower and that's why the country is in shape it's in people behind a desk who think they know about trucking!! Cause lady you have no idea why don't u manage yourself and not give your stupid opinion on something you have never done!

  40. 40. Don [ March 15, 2014 @ 07:32PM ]

    E log is a total B.S. do not fit with the reality of the road... traffic, detention time, truck problems, real sleep necessity of each individual (nobody sleeps10 hours...), personal time (lets say, you are 100 miles from home, but must sleep on truck just because your time is over) Fuck You!!!

  41. 41. Gary [ March 16, 2014 @ 04:00PM ]

    There are brokers that have already learned how to override the system .This has nothing to do with safety .Control ..You can't fix STUPID

  42. 42. ken [ March 17, 2014 @ 06:04PM ]

    The strike in B.C. is just a sample of what happen in Canada If E logs are brought in without setting fair trucking rates . Many truck owners in Canada have already parked their trucks, and working at other jobs. One overseas driver recruiter said that truck driver wages in Canada are already too low to bring truck drivers except for the oilfields and seasonal farm drivers

  43. 43. Dave [ March 18, 2014 @ 10:42PM ]

    I'm sure everyone remembers this one from a couple of months ago. This is why e-logs are being mandated. No, e-logs can't prevent accidents, or working beyond what is legal or what is right for a particular driver. However, because cheating, and mistakes, on paper logs is a common occurance, this (e-logs) is what happens.

    HEADLINE (WLS-TV Chicago) - "Truck driver accused in deadly I-88 crash"

    "Velasquez, 46, faces four felony charges related to driving while fatigued and beyond his approved hours after a crash that killed tollway worker Vincent Petrella, 39, and injured Illinois State Trooper Douglas Balder, 38. Petrella and Balder were responding to a disabled semi when the crash occurred Monday night in Aurora."

    "Prosecutors said Velasquez had reported to work at 8 a.m. Sunday, and had been on the job for nearly 38 hours  with only 3 1/2 hours sleep  when the crash occurred."

  44. 44. Richard McDaniels [ March 19, 2014 @ 07:04PM ]

    Lets just start by saying that most these idots who are making these rules for us out here keeping AMERICA goin cant put a key in a damn truck an move it. They want to tell us hell to run our trucks an our compaines but they dont realize that they are the very reason that there are so many wrecks an the cost of products being so high. The more you put on us the higher the cost of products go up an the more you take away from our pockets an our familys an the ability to suppport our familys. Id love to pull a truck up to the these idots an see just how many of these fucking idots can tell me anything about it an how to operate it. further more they treat us like a bunch of robots an track every move we make. OOIDA IS OUR BIGGEST DEFENSE AGAINST THIS.

  45. 45. Carlton Biggs [ March 25, 2014 @ 09:38AM ]

    I have all the expense I can affords and the cost is more than one previous blog said. All the OO's I talk to will quit when EOBR are mandated. so I guess I can say GOOD NIGHT like the plane pilot.

  46. 46. josh [ March 29, 2014 @ 05:12PM ]

    I don't understand how all these "local" drivers can work as many hrs as they want to with no regulations on them. I've seen more wrecks involving day cabs and crappy farm trucks but their worried about everyone else. just my 2 cents

  47. 47. camckown. [ April 07, 2014 @ 04:35PM ]

    Get your smartphone out and dial 202-224-3121 let your representative know that you are mad and want to see changes. If this passes trucking is done.

  48. 48. camckown. [ April 07, 2014 @ 04:47PM ]

    We were sold out years ago when truckers started filling out logbooks. This is just more government takeover. The only voice we have is ooida and they are not willing to have members strike. They settle with dot and we are stuck in the middle of crap.

  49. 49. WOODZEDGE #1 [ April 10, 2014 @ 04:20AM ]

    I THINK ITS DUMB, TRUCKERS NEED TO STRIKE AND SHOW THEM WHO REALLY RUN THE COUNTRY

  50. 50. Rick Carpenter [ April 13, 2014 @ 01:19PM ]

    E-log is not going to help prevent anything. The 14 hr rule is the problem, these drivers that use e-log are in a rush their playing beat the clock. Those that use paper log may work a little longer, but they can stop if they need a nap, can stop to avoid rush hour traffic. With the worthless fed jumping is not the answer. They make e-log mandatory soon to follow will be a hacker program just wait in see. If their gonna make it the law of the land then it should apply to all trucks over 26001lbs, dump trucks, trash truck, & ready mix truck just to list a few. These types run as many hours per day, per week as they want or need. To add the 30min break within 8hr is redickulus.

  51. 51. thom [ April 20, 2014 @ 06:20PM ]

    If you had been logging by the book, like the way it is stated in the law, we wouldn't have so many accidents from fatigued drivers. Stop whining and grow up.

  52. 52. charles [ April 20, 2014 @ 07:40PM ]

    They trying keep us honest but who keeping all the government honest,they do just as much lying,cheating, stealing, drugs as half people in the country,

  53. 53. .mike [ May 01, 2014 @ 07:12AM ]

    first of all who wants to run 3 or 4 thousand miles a week,not me I just want more money,not miles,ther s a lot of good coments,in all these stories. Lets rember y we do this ,to feed our familys,so increase freight rates,spend more time at home,thank u fmcsa,for all u do,my heros,I wont u to put as many laws on us as u can ,more money bottom line,It dfosent matter if u regulate us to 55 miles an hour thers still going to have crashes,Wat u should do is educate the public,Stop putting every thing on truckin ,

  54. 54. James D Henner [ May 12, 2014 @ 11:27PM ]

    This is all about taking your money not them making money they have all the money they need... And it's got nothing to do with safety, The computer does not know if you slept or not it only records the trucks activity.

  55. 55. dallas hensley [ May 14, 2014 @ 12:42PM ]

    good what we need out here change the Obama plan for outlaw trucks

  56. 56. Florist Man-Driver,,,,,,, [ May 16, 2014 @ 03:32AM ]

    I will start classes on a new profession while I can afford it. When the mandatory E Logs start I will no longer be a driver.

  57. 57. Brian Lusk [ May 19, 2014 @ 10:59PM ]

    Will Somebody Peek Out Their Bellybutton and See What's Happening?
    The Govt wants to protect us from bad companies.They push their drivers...etc.
    Those are not drivers..they are numbers! 6 digit numbers.
    Everyone an Award winning driver...Dont u know. But, apparently somebody forgot to tell'em that a truck'll Kill Ya.
    Oh! Ya! 864021 Dont forget.. Try not try to kill anybody, if u can help it. Our Insurance will go up.
    Huh?
    It doesn't matter, "we're self insured"
    If u get back from your first load...we'll make u a trainer!

    Obviously, the Giant Transportation Companies in their desperate measures to enlarge themselves are responsible for this forthcoming invasion of the ELD.
    They traded gluttony for Public Safety. $$$
    For that we are all about to suffer.
    If I am forced to have an ELD, The 6 digit truck number Columbia Megafleets need to pay for it!

  58. 58. Robert Rosenbalm [ May 24, 2014 @ 06:40AM ]

    I would just like to say that this would be a good ideal for a training tool for companies with a bad violation record but not a permanent solution. On the old rules with the split sleeper birth, a driver could take a break if he or she got tired but with the new proposed rule. A driver will have to drive on and push themselves because the clock won't stop. I thought the fmcsa was about safety? This doesn't sound safe at all. In fact I see it causing twice the amount of accidents due to everyone pushing harder before there time runs out. We already have somewhat of a driver shortage and I see it getting much worse. With all the taking away drivers freedom to do the job as WE see fit, you want to restrict us to minimum production. You as a organization should be working closely with the drivers to come up with the best rules to suit us all instead of making rules that in the long run is going to have devastating affect on this industry. Please stop trying to fix what is not broke.

  59. 59. Terry [ May 26, 2014 @ 11:41AM ]

    All those people whom want to make those changes need to get there ass on a semi and experience what trucking is, they must be bored behind there desks, they should get behind the wheel of a semi so they can experience how wonderful and liberating it is. There is nothing that comperes to driving a Big Rig.

  60. 60. Pauline [ May 26, 2014 @ 01:29PM ]

    I agree and disagree.... First of all only logging for time of fuel..I have talked with drivers and they said they can log 5 minutes...that's wrong...it takes a good half an hour.... Then these drivers don't get out and unlatch there hoods to do an inspection...they wait in there trucks and say they did it....I watch....unbelievable how these drivers are lazy nor do they know there equipment...they do this to the post trip too...another fact is when they get into a traffic jam all they do is push a button to be off duty....that's wrong! Another fact this system is only good for drop and hook loads...which driver never truly inspects truck or trailer..another fact is the company can get into the database and change this...also driver can call to reedit....wrong! I believe if they are going to make us use ELDS... They should be tamper proof that no one can alter it....I agree who is going to pay for this...freight rates are bad enough and high fuel. Its not fair that big companies get a discount for each added truck but the smaller ones font...its mostly the bigger companies that have the accidents as well as violations...they should be on ELDS... As for the smaller fleets it should be our choice if we want to use it...and if you are in violation with DOT then you should be on system....the violation would have to be real serious...I do have a question...what about the single contractor...how is dot going to get records when you are the company? If you are against having a baby sitter...let's stand together!!!

  61. 61. Jack Hoff [ June 13, 2014 @ 12:08AM ]

    This kind of bs, other than the fact that I got tired of being a modern-day slave, is why I got off the road and found a good HOURLY local job that has me off every Friday, Sat, and Sunday. OTR truckers get screwed and their time means nothing to 99% of companies out there who pay them nothing or an insulting low wage for downtime, detention time, or layover. You can have it and I'll never do it again!!!

  62. 62. Robert Rosenbalm [ July 03, 2014 @ 06:44AM ]

    all I have to say is when they are accidents call up due to you pushing these electronic logs on everybody it will be a disaster. drivers will have to drive tired because once the clock starts you won't be able to stop it and if you get tired you will not be able to take a break because your clock will not stop. It is going to be on your head when many accidents are caused due to your so called safety resolution .FMCSA. you are single handedly going to be the death of America. By putting so many restrictions on the trucking industry where nobody will be able to make a decent living. I hope I am wrong but I believe this is going to come back around and bite you in the ass big time!!!!!!??

  63. 63. LCoontz [ July 08, 2014 @ 07:55AM ]

    I'm an office mgr for an excavating company, and we have an ongoing discussion. If I have the tracking device in my truck and the driver doesn't drive more than say 100 miles one way delivering our own equipment, does the driver still have to fill out a drivers log? I know he doesn't have to keep a log book, but I have forms in the truck showing odometer readings and how many miles driven on a particular day.

  64. 64. LCoontz [ July 08, 2014 @ 07:55AM ]

    I'm an office mgr for an excavating company, and we have an ongoing discussion. If I have the tracking device in my truck and the driver doesn't drive more than say 100 miles one way delivering our own equipment, does the driver still have to fill out a drivers log? I know he doesn't have to keep a log book, but I have forms in the truck showing odometer readings and how many miles driven on a particular day.

  65. 65. Lisa [ July 08, 2014 @ 07:56AM ]

    I'm an office mgr for an excavating company, and we have an ongoing discussion. If I have the tracking device in my truck and the driver doesn't drive more than say 100 miles one way delivering our own equipment, does the driver still have to fill out a drivers log? I know he doesn't have to keep a log book, but I have forms in the truck showing odometer readings and how many miles driven on a particular day.

  66. 66. calvin pardue [ August 09, 2014 @ 03:16PM ]

    The elogs cost the company money an the drivers but who cares about the drivers so when law enforcement an the fed government get the all they going to have is a bunch of steering wheel holders an a lot oring wheel holds an a lot of deaths on the highways
    Highways because all the old school drivers is going to say enough is
    Enough

  67. 67. Trent [ September 27, 2014 @ 08:51PM ]

    good luck with all that there will be no more business. how are companies going to make money on bullshit elogs lol not going to happen

 

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